[mnet-devel] discussion on infoanarchy.org
Zooko
zooko at zooko.com
Mon Feb 24 12:34:26 GMT 2003
There is some discussion on infoanarchy.org. (See the "comments" section after
the review.)
http://www.infoanarchy.org/story/2003/2/22/13049/9989
An anonymous poster wrote:
It's really quite a pity that Mojo Nation croaked. They were just about the
coolest and most feature-rich system of it's kind, leaving the likes of
Freenet in the dust. MNet, a scaled back (some might say, "more realistic")
version of Mojo Nation, is still cool, but it's not nearly as ambitious and,
as such, I wonder if it will stand out from the crowd or be overlooked as yet
another P2P net.
Here is a copy of a comment that I just posted:
Mnet vs. Mojo Nation vs. other systems none / 0 (#5)
by Zooko on Mon Feb 24th, 2003 at 12:30:14 PM GMT
(User Info) http://zooko.com/
In a sense, the reason Mnet v0.6 actually works (for storing and downloading
files) is because I've explicitly pursued a policy of eliminating those myriad
ambitious features from Mojo Nation in order to concentrate on the core goals.
It's taken over a year to eliminate features and rewrite the core download
component so that Mnet v0.6 works as well as it does!
Now that the codebase is smaller and the feature set is reduced and the design
is simpler I hope user-visible progress can be a little faster. Another reason
that development is going better nowadays is that we have measurements of the
behavior of the network. "You can't improve what you can't measure."
As for Mnet's place in history, I will say first of all that I'm not too
worried about being overshadowed by other more successful projects. Even if
Mnet is always obscure, then perhaps the "competitor" projects that become
really ubiquitous will learn something from Mnet's successes and failures. Or
perhaps Mnet will just serve as a "backup" in case the more prominent projects
fail. If the backup is never needed then it was still a worthwhile effort to
provide it, for safety.
(This is only with regard to freedom-preserving projects like Freenet and
GNUnet. I am not at all willing to sit back and allow centralized or
censorable systems to dominate.)
Having said that, Mnet is still a very interesting project in 2003. Mnet is
not a "share my files" system like all of the current popular p2p networks, it
is a "decentralized filestore" system, like Freenet, Oceanstore, GNUnet, Chord
File System, and others.
Among "decentralized filestore" systems I think Mnet and Freenet are the only
ones that are actually deployed on multiple unrelated end-user machines. (I
would be happy to learn otherwise.)
There are lots of exciting developments in the works for the next version of
Mnet, and if any hackers out there are interested in participating, please
contact <mnet-devel at lists.sf.net>. One development that we are particularly
excited about is interoperating with other networks through standardized
interfaces.
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