[Mnet-devel] interesting paper from Ross Anderson and George Danezis (fwd)

osh at nbit.sigma.se osh at nbit.sigma.se
Thu May 27 07:26:00 BST 2004


Hello.
I don't think one thing should exclude the other. Having the "publish
everything in this directory" that icepick spoke about is a good idea
since this is how I believe many ppl think a p2p-app should work.

Also, I like the idea of mirroring popular (and legal) files, like
having Debian (or whatever dist) on Mnet and modify apt-get to be able
to fetch things from there. =)
The packages should be md5-signed from debian so there shouldn't be any
security issues there.

The md5-thingy brings me to the point of "mirroring" some other p2p-app
as suggested by Mr Hasselbacher. While this is a cool idea I think that
this is something to stay clear of. There's a lot of popular files on
other nets that's not what they're supposed to be, and a lot of files
that are troublesome.

And while we're on the subject of wishing things, how about having
something in the CT/Pusher (that's the publisher, right?) that signs
the packages so that one could rate who publish content. Someone who
keeps publishing bad content could be excluded on the search level. 

Just thought I'd add a few lines to the discussion since so many of You
are contributing. =)

wbr

Oscar

Quoting Kyle Hasselbacher <kyle-list-mndev at toehold.com>:

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> On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 05:20:48PM -0400, icepick wrote:
> 
> >At some point I want an "autopublish" function.  Take this folder,
> and 
> >make sure all the files in it are accessible via the network.
> 
> I had a more radical idea.  I wanted to autopublish other networks. 
> For
> instance:
> 
> 1.  Publish random things found in alt.binaries.mp3.
> 2.  Publish things found on Gnutella (watch the requests fly past,
> watch
> the searches fly past, guess what's popular and run with it).
> 3.  Perpetually mirror the latest linux-*.tar.bz2 into the network.
> 4.  Scrape a bittorrent site, see what's popular, mirror that.
> 
> Of course, I never got around to it, but it doesn't seem hard to
> stitch
> some other automated utilities together into doing this.
> 
> These mainly fall into a category that might be described as "I wish
> my
> bandwidth would go away" (big files in, big files out, non-stop). 
> Also,
> you'd want to have a large network with lots of empty block servers;
> all
> this publishing would keep pushing out old content.
> 
> Just throwing that out there so that someone else can help me
> procrastinate
> on it.
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