[p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP

Alex Pankratov ap at poneyhot.org
Wed Aug 20 14:59:48 EDT 2008

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> Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] IETF rejects Obfuscated TCP


> May I ask what you're trying to accomplish? Recall that TLS doesn't
> start until a TCP connection has been established, so there's
> aready a proof of the round trip.
> That said, a mechanism of this type has already been described
> for DTLS (RFC 4347), so no new invention would be needed.

My comment was in a context of a thread discussing Obfuscated TCP.

One of the suggestions was to piggyback SSL handshake on TCP 
handshake, to which someone pointed at an issue with SYN-flood 
like DoS attacks. My response was to the latter comment.


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